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From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Maximum transfer speed
Message-Id: <1995Oct29.174729.65311@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 29 Oct 95 17:47:29 MDT
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In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.951029001618.14977A-100000@bluejay.creighton.edu>, Psychos 'R Us <honge@creighton.edu> writes:
> This may have asked numerous times but I need the info pretty bad.
>
> I'm trying to download Big Files from a HP server. The Y-modem-G was not
> robust enough, and Z-modem has some problem working out. Basically the
> I'm logging into the HP server as a dumb terminal. Both the HP-UX kermit
> and the OS/2 kermit (on my end) are 5A(191). But for some reason, I
> cannot break through the 1041cps barrier. Using the Y-modem-G, the
> maximum transfer is at 1681cps. The modems (a Hayes Accura 14.4 and a
> Cardinal 14.4) operate at 14.4bps. On the average, I get one transfer
> error every 10 minutes (that's mathmatical average -- the real stuff is
> quite random but the phone noise is there).
>
> On the HP-UX end, the only thing I do is "kermit -i -x." On the OS/2 end,
> I have set packet size to 2048, window slots to 24, and everything else
> is as-is.
>
> Is there any other things I can/should do? I tried to use MS-Kermit
> (MS-DOS version). On that one, I couldn't even raise the packet length
> beyond 371! Oh well...
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Your last paragraph contains a useful piece of information. A
packet length of 371 bytes is not the kind of number we normally choose
for packets, but it is the kind of number which arises when a packet is
dinged and the sending side shrinks them upon retries. That's the "rubber
packet" heuristic.
In most cases of this kind our first response is "flow control,
flow control!" For best flow control use hardware RTS/CTS between your
machine and the modem, expect the modems to do their modem to modem
flow control under V.everything, and cross your fingers that your remote
host does snappy flow control with its modem too. Flow control must be
carried through from end to end, else traffic jams yield lost bytes.
The second response is, maybe there is a terminal server or other
comms box between you and the host and it is unable to handle fast traffic
without dropping bytes. Terminal servers are often quite wierd boxes.
The third and usually last blind suggestion is ensure your OS/2
end has a decent serial port, typically a 16550A UART, so it does not
drop bytes under load.
Hopefully in this list will be something which applies.
Joe D.